Model of Creationist Evolution - Extra-temporal God

God is Extra-Temporal = He is able to act outside of time, to manipulate time and react in an non-causal manner. He is not limited by the forces that limit our actions within the passage of time.

An example of this could be - A man is mugged and left bleeding to death, he prays to god to have someone come and help him. God responds by having someone equipped to deal with this man's need walk by just at the right time. But in his omniscient way god knew this prayer would be made in advance and had the foresight to prompt the medic to attend medical school, and maybe even on the day pick up a first aid kit on their way out of the house that day. God initiated the answer to prayer before the prayer went out.

God is capable of working without, or even outside of, the constraints of time.

In today's world we are more aware of the shape and form that time takes. We have in our experiences encountered time travel stories that have expanded our understanding of how free movement through time allows for different methods of achieving goals.

With this in mind I have identified a model that allows the story of Genesis as told in the bible to match with the concept of evolution.

God created the world in 6 days. He did it in a set order as listed in Genesis. But he acted outside of the period of that week. In all Honesty he reported to the prophets that the creation of the world and all its creatures took him six days. But he was not restricted to acting solely within a continuous hundred and forty four hour period. Without the understanding of the nature of time and the idea or time travel the early Israel nation would not have grasped the full details and would have recorded the parts that whilst accurate do not tell the whole story.

He could even have drawn together the elements he wanted to work with in the Garden of Eden, so that the evolved creatures were all present at one time. When the first human male was created by God's hand he would have been the finest thing around. But very possibly he would have been quite lonely god takes the time to craft a mate and brings her to the garden.

All of this building and creation work was happening over the length of time that evolution takes, with the hand of the designer involved at all stages. He marvelled at his handiwork and proclaimed it good.

Exceptions -

I am not claiming that this is how the universe and man came to be, but I am saying it is a possible model or explanation. I'm saying it is in keeping with the character and abilities of God and that it doesn't contradict the teachings of Genesis as much as say the models where people claim that when God says it took a day his definition of a day is not like our definition of day. He with all honesty reports to the early Jewish church and the scripture writers that it took him a week and it still allows for the work to be carried out over a much longer period.

Objections -

I'm aware of automatic objections to this model.

First I expect to hear that I am using my Wisdom to supplant that of God. Well I'm not trying to. I'm trying to figure out how it could be that there is evidence I trust to support evolution, yet there is a record of God's involvement which I believe in and the two don't seem to tally.

The second objection I suspect will be aimed at my last point - some will object to the validity of the evolution evidence. In this model all evolution evidence can resolve with the biblical teachings, not that this makes the evidence valid but it removes the faith imperative to disprove the theory of evolution. The same would be true for the big bang. But if you still insist there is reasonable doubt that evolution has been proven I do not need to discourage you. Whether evolution is ever proven or not the above is an interpretation model that shows the events in the bible can be compatible with the theory, it does not require evolution to be true and it does not benefit or suffer should evolution be proved false.

There are other verses in the bible that suggest that evolution from one common ancestor is not true. 1 Corinthians 15:39-41 tells that all flesh is not the same. I'm not sure that this stands as a distinct argument against common ancestry I won't comment on that element as I haven't studied this verse in that light. But I would suggest a means by which we can still have an evolutionary past and this verse still be accurate and honest. The different kinds of flesh are accurate within an evolutionist view of the world. Humans do have different DNA though largely similar to chimps it is not the same. All flesh is not the same, there are some differences.

Objection also could come from the scientific community, the above model does suppose the existence of a deity that cannot be proven. I accept this but all I'm asking of the model is that is internally consistent. That it present a way to resolve evolution and creationism. I feel that the model is able to do that.

Both camps can attack me for over-simplification, embellishment, dodging points or ignorance of the issues. I accept my failings - I am neither a geneticist nor a theologian. I'm not a time traveller either. But I had an idea and it seemed worth jotting it down.

Anyway I'm interested in all feedback - Secular and Religious. I'd like to have you remember this is about drawing the two sides together, so please respond to the piece not the arguments for or against either of the stand points. Again please stick to feedback on the above model. If anyone does stray from feedback please just ignore their comment and continue on topic.

Lost Luggage - Home Work

Like the last elephant leaving the zoo I paused to turn out the lights, scanning the board room for one last time. Seeing the brief case snug under the desk, slightly ajar and totally unattended, I returned to the long table and dropped down onto my knees sliding the case out and lifting it up past my eye level onto the desk.

Without wanting to invade their privacy I quickly decided to see if I could find out whose case it was. I carefully removed the news paper, and manila envelopes spreading those out beside me, and settled into one of the comfy chairs supplied for investors. I noticed for the first time how supple the padding was and how supportive and firm the arms and back are.

The remains of the case were unimpressive, who ever owns it is reading a Dick Francis novel, and they were using a creased playing card (the nine of hearts) as a bookmark on page 34-35. It seems the main character awakes and is unsure where he is. There was a selection of Bic pencils, some with the ends chewed to splinters. Also some sachets of silicone were still in the bottom of the brief case, though the cheep stitching was coming loose inside, and the faux leather showed signs of wear. It wasn't a new brief case. I tried to remember now who was sat either side of where I found it. But all the investors seem to blur into one.

I took another look at the evidence, noticing the crossword puzzle on the news paper, it was almost finished, and had been filled in with a pencil. That's cheating. I flipped the broadsheet over to catch sight of the masthead and date, a two day old copy of the New Your Times. They're not so quick at solving puzzles. New York is a clue, there had been a couple of investors from America. There was a Texan, which I thought was clichéd the minute he walked in, and there was the guy who reminded me of Woody Allan. It could have been either of them I guess. But I figure it's not the Texan, he was all show and bluster, his money nearly sang and danced all through the pitch, he was making such a production of it. There's no way he'd own such a shabby case.

So it was the balding nervous guy. His pencil chewing habits and his nervous twitch were easy to remember, I could imagine him forgetting his brief case. So very much in character given how he'd acted all through the meeting. I snapped the latches shut , and took the case with me as I left the rented function room. Hitting the lights I headed to the supervisors office to see if they had a lost property box. Seeing as the bald guy was too tight to offer to invest I'd leave it to him to come back and fetch his case.

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